(Variations on a passage of conversation between Joan
Retallack & John Cage)

The thread of emptiness that runs through it all
Yes, yes.
It’s very interesting to me –
Yes.
– That the thread of emptiness runs –
– Runs through everything.
– Through everything

The thread of everything that empties through it all
Yes.
It’s run through everything, –
Yes, yes
– Everything that empties me –
– Empties through my very interest.
– My very interest

The runs thread everything through me
Yes, yes.
That empties it’s interest –
Yes.
– Empty as the running –
– The running through every interest.
– Through every interest

That very emptiness interests me through it all
Yes.
It’s run through –
Yes, yes.
– The emptiness interests me –
– Threaded through that.
– Through that

The interestedness of it all is through
Yes, yes.
That thread it’s empty –
Yes.
– The interest of everything running –
– Every empty thread.
– That thread is empty.